Bulwark Interviews Ex-CIA Officer Julia Curlee on Pence Affirmation Before Trump Firing
The Bulwark segment features host Tim Miller interviewing Julia Curlee, a former CIA officer and NSC official who briefed Vice President Mike Pence daily for over a year. Curlee reads from her recent Atlantic essay describing a moving White House moment where Pence met her family, took her mother's hand, and said he must be very proud of his daughter—affirming her gender identity despite his public positions. The conversation highlights her effective service, the dignity Pence showed her, and contrasts it with her firing from the second Trump administration shortly after her identity became public. Miller reacts with anger toward Trump officials who dismissed her contributions amid the "witch hunt." The segment draws from Curlee's firsthand account and her published essay, with no additional named experts or opposing guests.
Source: The Bulwark